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I feel like

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welcome to centre of light radio with

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spiritual teacher intuitive musician

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composer and best-selling author of the

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Divine Principle anchoring heaven on

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earth your host Keith Anthony Blanchard

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Denis Blanchard Wow welcome to sooner of

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light radio yes I am Keith Anthony

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Blanchard center of light radio soon of

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divine unfoldment and reinforcements

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strap in all ye spiritual astral knots

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as we launch for inner space I'm going

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to repeat this message again I am a

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blessed man to impart to you listening

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audience information that was given to

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me by spiritual masters through a dear

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friend of mine we did a session her name

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is Modric a little i had on the show a

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couple of weeks ago and i had a session

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week before senator of light has now

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been given the go sign by those masters

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and full support and that center of

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light is now going to become a super

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highway for conscious evolution it was

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an amazing experience I I won't go into

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it it was all recorded the show a few

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weeks ago feel free to go to the

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archives to check out that particular

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broad cast so the future of center of

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light radio looks very very fine from

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where I'm sitting also middle of August

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not sure just yet if it's going to be

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second of the third week I'm going to

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have a god realized man we say that

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again make sure that I deliver this

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point very clearly a god realized man

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who dedicated 21 years of his life

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became the embodiment of that divine

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energy so this man is God realized he

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can actually go within himself in this

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point at this point right now and tell

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you repeat back to you exactly what I'm

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talking about wherever he is on the

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planet and we're considering doing the

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broadcast live but in video fashion and

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this is going to be a very very powerful

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shell and you can bet that I'm going to

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use every possible um ounce of my energy

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to ask questions that we as a human race

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condition of the world what do we need

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to do to further our evolution along

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very nicely effortlessly

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and easily I'm going to take some time

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I'm gonna be doing a lot of meditating

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you can bet on that about the particular

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questions and dialogue and I'm gonna

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have with swansea swansea Viswa yogi who

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gene Viswa yogi God realized me I'm

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alien-human hybrid friend by the name of

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nucleus eight is considering doing an

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going to be pre-recorded we want to keep

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him safe from whatever um people that

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will knowing nucleus aight aight i know

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him very very well just a heads up on

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who nucleus 80 is it someone i

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befriended some years ago spent four

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happen you can bet that this is a very

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very authentic experience make sure you

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visit center of light radio website you

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do that by going to center of light

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all my past shows i've been here about

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two months now and I'm grateful to the

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inception radio network team for

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what a great team i have that i work

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with jo Bob and MJ my dear thanks to you

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again go to centre of light radio there

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you can find archives of all the show as

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i said you can also jump seat from there

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to go to Keith Anthony Blanchard website

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contains Atlanta calm and find all my

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a path to passionate living the movie

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about my life as a full-time musician

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which I here meaning musicians say well

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Keith I want to do that but I just well

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you're talking to the wrong cat because

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I do it quite nice qui s'en quite nicely

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say you know Keith I want to handle

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flowers but I can't do that well you

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need to go have a chat with the florist

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down the street so this movie is real

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dream of having happen let's see and

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there you will finally find my do what

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center of light radio tonight my guess

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is anya Trahan and my Cajun wants to

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really really key word there intentional

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all our relations dr. anya skillfully

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community building and open

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integrative guide to love sex and

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that whether or not the reader chooses

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of them dr. on you gently encourages the

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human I want to bring on board dr. Anya

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Trahan welcome to the center of light

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radio thank you so much for having me

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awareness right now exists and i'm all

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for opening in I understand Paula Maury

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of my life and but it the intention

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that's why I singled out that word

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the field that you play in it's not

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validate yourself through other people

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very conscious way that is true I think

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polyamory movement is it's not new like

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Early 90s but really it's you know a

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definitely a side of the movement that's

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more rational logical focused on you

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know day-to-day mundane things how to

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make these different kinds of

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relationships work I would say the the

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main thrusts of the movement is the

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spiritual behind of and I didn't even

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mean that thank you so much understood

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understand a lot of that thrust of the

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moon I don't mean a minute let me

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interject here oh my point is and i just

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realized i've been pronouncing the word

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incorrectly it's Paula Prentiss a living

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in polyamory yeah polyamory polyamory

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okay um so now that we got I'm the type

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of guy that jumps off the high diving

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board headfirst into the deep end of the

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pool I move right through my stuff it's

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in there so many benefits of doing that

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and I understand many people probably

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most people have reservations about

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moving into something one first they

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don't understand too they're not sure

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what they would do that if they allow

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themselves to entertain the idea and

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then three how's everybody else around

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them going to respond if they implement

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or even hecka d even knew they were

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thinking such thoughts that being said i

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would like to weave this particular

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field our practice into the other

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aspects of the show which is love and

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relationship and how would we put all

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this too

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to achieve a goal of enlightenment

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relationship with multiple people not

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only in a sexual fashion but how does

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all of this fit together to bring us

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closer to people to achieve a goal of

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expansion I identify as a lightworker

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that is probably the identity label that

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I like the most and actually constantly

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sort of remind myself because I'm

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involved in so many different things you

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know I'm a spokesperson for polyamory

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but I'm also a relationship coach Reiki

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Master I do a lot of different things

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with people I teach meditation um and

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when I there so there's a lot of

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different fields and different kinds of

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discussions that I'm involved in and

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sometimes they could get a little

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chaotic especially since i'm bringing in

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sexual discussions into spiritual

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discussions which can be really

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frightening for a lot of people really

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unnerving so at the end of the day when

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I lay my head down to sleep or you know

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in the morning when I wake up I sort of

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do a review what is the most important

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aspect or the thing that I want to

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remember is the foundation for

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everything else that I'm doing and that

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light worker identity label is what I is

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in my heart so essentially what i did

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through coming up with this angle on

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discussing polyamory is talking about

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intentional relationships so intentional

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relationships is not a term that I

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invented I it's a word that is tossed

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around a lot in different kinds of

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communities the pagan community the BDSM

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kink community they are all about

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talking about intentional relationships

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I don't even actually know where that

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term came from but it's it's sort of

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common lingo and the goal of the book

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opening love was basically to use the

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lessons that I've learned as a

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polyamorous as an openly polyamorous

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person as

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a relationship coach as a spiritual

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teacher and translate them for people

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who are at least open to the idea of

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living a spiritual life so those that

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was basically my target audience for the

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book and in terms of how does all this

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fit together so the term polyamory

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itself it comes from Greek and Latin

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roots so poly meaning many Greek Latin

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Amory love so it translates to mean many

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loves and that's well and good actually

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for most people at a certain level if

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you don't incorporate the intimate

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sexual aspect to it because if you think

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about it a lot of people are raised as

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children with the concept of you know

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you should love all the people in your

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family you should love all your brothers

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and sisters you should love your parents

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aunts uncles grandparents we have this

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notion of love and having it be ideally

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like an equal love so you know your

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parents saying I love all of you the

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same you're talking to the children I

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love all of you the same I don't play

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favorites we're all a family we all have

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this commitment to each other to support

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each other and help each other grow and

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so if you for the moment you know strip

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back the implications about sexuality

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then the concept of many loves isn't

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threatening its oh I'm very aware of

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that because no judgment I was raised

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Catholic I'm and just being out in the

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world I know how society looks at such a

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subject that being said how have people

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responded to your book opening love how

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do people respond to you in person when

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you do your your talks or your classes

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how how did they digest that idea are

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they able to

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get in with an open mind or do you see

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the 51 percent of them you know still

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holding on to fear about such such ideas

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the people that find me are ready to

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find me right so uh I live in a very

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very small conservative Midwestern town

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um you know where everybody knows each

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other you go to the grocery store you

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can't not bump into two to three people

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that you know and you know so it's a

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very small place and when I started

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thinking about coming out with the book

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I was hesitant because I thought wow

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this is a really small town I don't know

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what happened and to be honest um I'll

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say the negative first but then I'll

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dwell more on the positive which is that

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you know since the book was released

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about a month ago I have been actually

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terminated from to employment positions

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that i had with two organizations in the

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town in which i live so you know um did

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you expect that no no I did not I

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thought the worst that would happen was

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gossip and maybe losing some friends

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because when I first came out as

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polyamorous just in my personal life I

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lost a number of friends I had issues

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with my family come up where they were

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very not understanding so I thought well

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it's just gonna be like social

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repercussions in my personal life I did

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not really think that it would affect my

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professional life which looking back

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maybe I was a bit naive and that's okay

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because I'd rather be naive than cynical

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I suppose but to focus on positive more

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what's come out of me being openly

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polyamorous in my personal life and then

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transitioning that into doing workshops

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and then this book coming out and now

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I've been doing readings and and things

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in this town since it came out it's been

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amazing because at least every day I get

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an email or a facebook message from

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someone who says thank you so much I've

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been thinking about the stuff that you

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wrote about

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for years since I was a kid and so there

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are more people who are actually open to

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this think about this and probably

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implement this in their life and they

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just needed someone like you to validate

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them that this is can be used as an

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actual system for conscious expansion

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better relationships yada yada yada yes

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exactly that's awesome um I show up a

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doctor Anya's class how do you go into

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your presentation about love sex and

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relationship if you would can you give

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me can you weave that for me your

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opening statement of introduction to

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your class well the main thing that I

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open with usually is talking about how

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we all are culturally conditioned to

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have very limiting beliefs about what we

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can do with other people so we have

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these concepts and frameworks in our

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vocabulary that are not very conducive

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to spiritual growth so for example the I

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go into a discussion of terminology one

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of the most awesome helpful things about

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the polyamory movement is it gives

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people a new vocabulary for example

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there is the very ubiquitous concept of

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breaking up right so so-and-so broke up

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with so-and-so and I broke up with this

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person and it's usually a negative

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conversation you will feel like they

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have to pick sides they have to regret

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the past oh I feel like this was wasted

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time with this person and it's just it's

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awful it's really awful well the

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polyamory movement has it's not a

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necessarily quite a new word because the

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word was already around but the word

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transition / transitioning the concept

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is that you can change your status with

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someone make an informed agreement

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between two people

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think of it as a transition from one

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form to the next so in Buddhism we have

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the concept of impermanence so the idea

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behind impermanence is that everything

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changes you cannot get past that so even

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if you're in a marriage when you make

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vows um and you do stay together let's

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say ideally for a lifetime which is what

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you promised to do even then you still

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have the reality of living life in a

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body you have change you go through

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different jobs you move maybe you each

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person goes through different

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evolutionary processes so that by the

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end of the marriage you know maybe at

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the time one or both people are dying on

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their deathbed those people are not the

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same at all right out so we're actually

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all polyamorous we're all are it's just

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the fact whether you choose to engage in

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a more personal intimate way with your

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partners because we all have many loves

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in our life yes exactly that is one of

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the things that I talked about like a

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broken record in that we are all

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polyamorous love in so many different

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ways what polyamory does it's an

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egalitarian based mindset so um it's

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about coming together with in into a

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community so it's one of the issues and

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our current culture is a feeling of

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isolation and you know that's been a

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problem for humans for a really long

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time now and it seems to be getting

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worse actually not better that's just my

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opinion polyamory brings people together

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in beautiful ways so it the connections

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don't even necessarily need to be sexual

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so for example at one point and I talked

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about this in my book opening love I was

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involved in a quad so it was myself my

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husband Andrew his partner Cordelia and

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then Cordelia's other partner which I

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won't name his name because he's not

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fully out it was the four of us now I

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wasn't necessarily

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involved with Cordelia in the way that

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Andrew was and you know Cordelia's

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partner wasn't involved with Andrew the

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way that he was involved with Cordelia

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we all had different types of

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interactions but what we did was we came

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together for a period of time and we

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helped each other out with just mundane

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stuff grocery shopping um support you

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know you always knew that you had

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someone to call if something was

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difficult and you needed advice we were

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there for each other so that's one of

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the nice things about the polyamory

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movement is it's not all about the sex

546
00:26:16,180 --> 00:26:13,640
it's I mean it is it does recognize that

547
00:26:19,810 --> 00:26:16,190
sex between consenting adults is a

548
00:26:22,450 --> 00:26:19,820
beautiful uplifting experience but it is

549
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:22,460
not all about the sex yeah you know we

550
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:26,480
we carry and we have carried at least so

551
00:26:32,110 --> 00:26:29,210
much stuff surrounding sex the dirt of

552
00:26:34,990 --> 00:26:32,120
it the negatives of it and as much as

553
00:26:39,460 --> 00:26:35,000
everyone i would think just about

554
00:26:41,260 --> 00:26:39,470
everyone enjoys the act of it even the

555
00:26:43,270 --> 00:26:41,270
idea of just the thought it will make

556
00:26:45,490 --> 00:26:43,280
Ross someone's mind during the day but

557
00:26:48,539 --> 00:26:45,500
it's just there's so much baggage that

558
00:26:51,250 --> 00:26:48,549
seems to accompany that particular

559
00:26:52,750 --> 00:26:51,260
engagement and you know again as I said

560
00:26:57,460 --> 00:26:52,760
growing up Catholic it wasn't so much

561
00:27:00,419 --> 00:26:57,470
about that but being blasted inundated

562
00:27:04,810 --> 00:27:00,429
with ideas and beliefs surrounded by a

563
00:27:06,430 --> 00:27:04,820
sex um it makes it more difficult for

564
00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:06,440
you a person who is in a monogamous

565
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:10,400
relationship even to let go and relax

566
00:27:16,750 --> 00:27:14,240
and enjoy yourself blissfully with your

567
00:27:18,490 --> 00:27:16,760
partner I would agree with that totally

568
00:27:20,409 --> 00:27:18,500
and you know I like I said at the

569
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:20,419
beginning of the died on the show I'm

570
00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:24,110
always one for looking at my fear um you

571
00:27:28,659 --> 00:27:26,030
know taking that deep breath and

572
00:27:29,950 --> 00:27:28,669
stepping right into it and okay my way

573
00:27:32,289 --> 00:27:29,960
through it because once you cross that

574
00:27:34,330 --> 00:27:32,299
threshold yeah you're gonna feel funky

575
00:27:36,370 --> 00:27:34,340
for a little while it's gonna feel a

576
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:36,380
keen next thing you know 30 seconds late

577
00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:39,110
you know what I'm okay there's I'm truly

578
00:27:42,820 --> 00:27:41,120
okay in a minute later I'm really okay

579
00:27:46,060 --> 00:27:42,830
next thing you know you move through a

580
00:27:47,409 --> 00:27:46,070
pattern a block a wall and it's done you

581
00:27:49,030 --> 00:27:47,419
done with it for the rest of your life

582
00:27:50,830 --> 00:27:49,040
so the

583
00:27:52,990 --> 00:27:50,840
reason I decided that I really want to

584
00:27:57,460 --> 00:27:53,000
talk at least some about this particular

585
00:27:59,890 --> 00:27:57,470
arm practice it's because does it mean

586
00:28:01,780 --> 00:27:59,900
you have to move into this particular

587
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:01,790
experience we're not suggesting that you

588
00:28:07,570 --> 00:28:04,130
do what we are saying is if you open

589
00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:07,580
your mind to the idea only for the sake

590
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:10,670
of removing that which is blocking you

591
00:28:15,790 --> 00:28:13,730
in your life just to have intimacy

592
00:28:18,970 --> 00:28:15,800
however you choose to employ that in

593
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:18,980
your life can be so expansive to your

594
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:20,330
own consciousness to your own well-being

595
00:28:29,710 --> 00:28:24,970
to your own spiritual growth amen I

596
00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:29,720
think yeah same or if you are talking on

597
00:28:36,820 --> 00:28:31,220
I think we're done with I think we're

598
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:36,830
done with the show yeah yeah you know it

599
00:28:42,340 --> 00:28:38,930
to me it's all about removing the fear

600
00:28:46,690 --> 00:28:42,350
and we always assign not only body part

601
00:28:48,940 --> 00:28:46,700
well not only people you know in our

602
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:48,950
life a role and we expect them to carry

603
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:51,170
that roll out now this is the role I've

604
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:52,970
given you we also do that with body

605
00:28:56,980 --> 00:28:55,250
parts you know this particular body part

606
00:28:59,020 --> 00:28:56,990
has this particular function in that

607
00:29:00,370 --> 00:28:59,030
function only it's just a body part it's

608
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:00,380
no more important than your finger you

609
00:29:05,710 --> 00:29:02,510
tow your head you here it's all the same

610
00:29:09,730 --> 00:29:05,720
thing it's it's amazing the power that

611
00:29:12,220 --> 00:29:09,740
we have and when we assigned an idea a

612
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:12,230
belief a suggestion from the outside

613
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:15,110
influence that this means that and means

614
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:18,290
that only and it really chokes us and it

615
00:29:23,290 --> 00:29:21,530
really stifles our growth it's really

616
00:29:26,740 --> 00:29:23,300
about charting your own course through

617
00:29:29,650 --> 00:29:26,750
life and and in granted we are to a

618
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:29,660
certain extent constrain or we think are

619
00:29:39,610 --> 00:29:31,760
constrained by certain things like money

620
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:39,620
or prestige or reputation however if we

621
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:43,010
do open our minds a little bit we can

622
00:29:47,860 --> 00:29:46,010
see that we are not we do have wiggle

623
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:47,870
room for how we want to make decisions I

624
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:53,090
mean I host a polyamory support group at

625
00:29:59,940 --> 00:29:57,170
my home and there's people that come

626
00:30:03,000 --> 00:29:59,950
that aren't out

627
00:30:04,830 --> 00:30:03,010
at all and in fact they're super

628
00:30:07,470 --> 00:30:04,840
closeted in that they're a little bit

629
00:30:09,810 --> 00:30:07,480
even nervous coming to the group but

630
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:09,820
they do because they want to just hang

631
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:12,730
out with people who are cool cool

632
00:30:18,299 --> 00:30:15,970
open-minded bisexuality not judgmental

633
00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:18,309
you know you can you're welcomed here if

634
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:19,929
you come in the door you're completely

635
00:30:24,750 --> 00:30:23,200
welcomed but um but even so like even

636
00:30:28,379 --> 00:30:24,760
though they're not out there's no

637
00:30:30,090 --> 00:30:28,389
judgment on my part my partner he helps

638
00:30:32,430 --> 00:30:30,100
me host this support group heat we're

639
00:30:33,810 --> 00:30:32,440
not saying you know constantly saying

640
00:30:36,750 --> 00:30:33,820
you should come out I mean in fact we

641
00:30:38,580 --> 00:30:36,760
never really say that we only really

642
00:30:40,769 --> 00:30:38,590
sort of mention it to the people who are

643
00:30:42,269 --> 00:30:40,779
kind of at the edge and we can tell and

644
00:30:44,879 --> 00:30:42,279
we're like well you know if you came out

645
00:30:46,289 --> 00:30:44,889
these might be the consequences and you

646
00:30:50,129 --> 00:30:46,299
need to think about it and you know you

647
00:30:51,930 --> 00:30:50,139
won't die and um worst case scenario you

648
00:30:56,759 --> 00:30:51,940
know you know here are the possibilities

649
00:30:58,350 --> 00:30:56,769
but um there is room for how you want to

650
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:58,360
live your life even if you want to

651
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:00,880
practice polyamory you know have

652
00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:04,000
different kinds of relationships you

653
00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:06,070
don't have to be all out about it you

654
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:08,559
don't have to do what I'm doing it write

655
00:31:13,409 --> 00:31:10,960
a book about it you just practice it and

656
00:31:15,810 --> 00:31:13,419
you kind of keep it quiet and that might

657
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:15,820
be what you want to do so we and I love

658
00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:17,289
what you were saying about sexuality

659
00:31:24,090 --> 00:31:20,529
about body parts because some of the

660
00:31:26,430 --> 00:31:24,100
people move really the lot of the main

661
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:26,440
spokespeople for polyamory are involved

662
00:31:32,810 --> 00:31:28,690
with says sacred sexuality movement

663
00:31:36,269 --> 00:31:32,820
which essentially breaks apart our

664
00:31:37,620 --> 00:31:36,279
notions about what sex is so yeah like

665
00:31:40,889 --> 00:31:37,630
you were saying like certain body parts

666
00:31:43,740 --> 00:31:40,899
are you know considered yet deemed to be

667
00:31:46,409 --> 00:31:43,750
more sexual less sexual and you know in

668
00:31:48,330 --> 00:31:46,419
workshops that I've taught or been to

669
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:48,340
some of this like here's an example of a

670
00:31:51,629 --> 00:31:50,080
practice you know partner up with

671
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:51,639
someone who sit next to you in the group

672
00:31:57,330 --> 00:31:54,399
and just spend ten minutes taking your

673
00:32:00,779 --> 00:31:57,340
index finger and slightly rubbing it on

674
00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:00,789
their elbow but with the intent to make

675
00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:02,590
the other person that you're touching

676
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:05,620
you know feel as awesome as possible but

677
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:07,120
that's the limitations you can only

678
00:32:10,690 --> 00:32:09,610
touch their elbow and you wouldn't even

679
00:32:13,060 --> 00:32:10,700
believe

680
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:13,070
the end of the 10 minutes how awesome

681
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:14,930
both people feel from that practice so

682
00:32:19,510 --> 00:32:16,910
that would be sort of a safe zone a

683
00:32:21,010 --> 00:32:19,520
starting point it doesn't mean you have

684
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:21,020
to carry it further it's a starting

685
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:23,930
point to help open one's mind to the

686
00:32:29,470 --> 00:32:26,330
idea it's okay to touch somebody it's

687
00:32:31,930 --> 00:32:29,480
okay providing of course both intentions

688
00:32:33,550 --> 00:32:31,940
or aligned yes absolutely and you see

689
00:32:38,430 --> 00:32:33,560
and again I'll go back to the beginning

690
00:32:41,170 --> 00:32:38,440
of the show when I was sent by Maria

691
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:41,180
suggested guests for the show I read

692
00:32:46,150 --> 00:32:44,030
your bio and I did some research and I

693
00:32:48,670 --> 00:32:46,160
had some hesitation I really did and

694
00:32:51,130 --> 00:32:48,680
because I did it pushed me even further

695
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:51,140
to say this is a bunch of whatever and

696
00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:54,290
is more than I'm going to do it because

697
00:32:58,420 --> 00:32:56,150
this show is deemed center of light and

698
00:33:02,290 --> 00:32:58,430
if there's knowledge to be gleaned here

699
00:33:05,230 --> 00:33:02,300
through this medium this platform sin of

700
00:33:07,330 --> 00:33:05,240
light radio that helps expand people

701
00:33:09,610 --> 00:33:07,340
into greater ideas not necessarily to

702
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:09,620
join such a movement try to give you the

703
00:33:14,650 --> 00:33:12,290
information information equals power

704
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:14,660
equals knowledge equals bliss if you get

705
00:33:19,570 --> 00:33:16,910
that information you can BS know how to

706
00:33:21,730 --> 00:33:19,580
meander your own life with choices it

707
00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:21,740
might help even even alleviate some of

708
00:33:27,270 --> 00:33:24,680
the judgment you have towards people

709
00:33:29,410 --> 00:33:27,280
such as yourself and in the movement

710
00:33:31,660 --> 00:33:29,420
about their life and the choices that

711
00:33:33,780 --> 00:33:31,670
they make for themselves thank you for

712
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:33,790
having the bravery and the courage and

713
00:33:39,010 --> 00:33:36,530
doing that because I did I sensed the

714
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:39,020
hesitation and I thought to myself well

715
00:33:43,060 --> 00:33:40,610
if it doesn't happen it doesn't happen

716
00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:43,070
and that's okay because that's happened

717
00:33:50,590 --> 00:33:47,590
you know with other you know radio

718
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:50,600
programs that have almost happened and

719
00:33:55,660 --> 00:33:53,810
didn't and that's okay because it wasn't

720
00:33:58,350 --> 00:33:55,670
meant to be at that time so but I do I

721
00:34:02,020 --> 00:33:58,360
appreciate that a lot and I'm like yeah

722
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:02,030
I think that one of the reasons people

723
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:06,290
end up shying away from it is because it

724
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:10,810
is confusing you know there is the

725
00:34:15,790 --> 00:34:13,490
similarity in words for example of

726
00:34:17,770 --> 00:34:15,800
polyamory to polygamy now I don't want

727
00:34:21,460 --> 00:34:17,780
to display gimme but it is a very

728
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:21,470
specific um the agenda is totally

729
00:34:28,450 --> 00:34:24,530
different yeah hello most perfectly

730
00:34:30,610 --> 00:34:28,460
all together yeah and you know while I

731
00:34:33,130 --> 00:34:30,620
don't know any polygamous people and

732
00:34:37,630 --> 00:34:33,140
I've heard and I've read that there are

733
00:34:41,260 --> 00:34:37,640
situations where the gender dynamics are

734
00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:41,270
actually egalitarian um I do know that

735
00:34:45,790 --> 00:34:43,250
for the most part sexuality you know

736
00:34:48,610 --> 00:34:45,800
within the polygamy is viewed as pretty

737
00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:48,620
much like just have sex for to make

738
00:34:55,810 --> 00:34:52,100
babies and it's still pretty sexualities

739
00:35:00,070 --> 00:34:55,820
deemed to be shameful and you know kind

740
00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:00,080
of where is polyamory is more of a sex

741
00:35:07,210 --> 00:35:04,190
positive approach so there is that kind

742
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:07,220
of issue and people just they're

743
00:35:12,220 --> 00:35:09,110
uninformed about a poly maria's because

744
00:35:15,970 --> 00:35:12,230
it is so new even though I mean myself

745
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:15,980
I've been out since 2010 and even

746
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:19,310
between now and or between then and now

747
00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:21,710
just seeing the media coverage increase

748
00:35:28,030 --> 00:35:24,500
about the subject of polyamory or sacred

749
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:28,040
sexuality has I mean more than doubled I

750
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:29,690
don't even I don't know the statistics

751
00:35:35,830 --> 00:35:33,200
but it's incredible so but even with

752
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:35,840
that it's still on pretty much unknown

753
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:38,450
in the mainstream public so yeah it's

754
00:35:42,490 --> 00:35:40,210
hard to tackle a topic that you don't

755
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:42,500
you don't really know where the person

756
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:45,410
is coming from is this like a fanatical

757
00:35:51,370 --> 00:35:48,410
like weird up fringe person you know so

758
00:35:53,770 --> 00:35:51,380
I that makes sense it's amazing how the

759
00:35:56,290 --> 00:35:53,780
most amazing thing that manifests on

760
00:35:59,620 --> 00:35:56,300
this planet happens through sex and that

761
00:36:02,230 --> 00:35:59,630
is human birth and it's a it's wild to

762
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:02,240
use the word how we've gathered

763
00:36:08,350 --> 00:36:05,690
collected all this dust all these funky

764
00:36:10,540 --> 00:36:08,360
things that attacked you know even in my

765
00:36:13,690 --> 00:36:10,550
own life I can see there are aspects of

766
00:36:15,490 --> 00:36:13,700
myself as I look towards my past when I

767
00:36:18,340 --> 00:36:15,500
would do such things it was always to

768
00:36:20,110 --> 00:36:18,350
fill a hole inside of myself now living

769
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:20,120
through all that and being where I'm at

770
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:22,370
now currently in my life I see the

771
00:36:28,570 --> 00:36:25,730
nonsense that i lived in my approach as

772
00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:28,580
to why we are at the bottom of the hour

773
00:36:32,590 --> 00:36:30,200
would you give out your contact

774
00:36:34,810 --> 00:36:32,600
information so our listening on it can

775
00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:34,820
find out more about you your movement in

776
00:36:41,780 --> 00:36:35,830
your book

777
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:41,790
yes dr. Anya dotnet so dr aan why not n

778
00:36:47,850 --> 00:36:45,730
ET and you can find my book opening love

779
00:36:52,170 --> 00:36:47,860
intentional relationships and evolution

780
00:36:53,730 --> 00:36:52,180
of consciousness on amazon I love that I

781
00:36:55,590 --> 00:36:53,740
love that phrase intentional

782
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:55,600
relationships there's a clarity there's

783
00:37:01,260 --> 00:36:57,850
an understanding I'd like to move a

784
00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:01,270
little more into the aspects of love and

785
00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:10,270
relationship how do we begin to create

786
00:37:14,850 --> 00:37:12,580
better loving relationships in our life

787
00:37:16,350 --> 00:37:14,860
we think that we go to the store we

788
00:37:18,210 --> 00:37:16,360
accidentally bump our shopping cart in

789
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,220
to someone we meet them or we go to

790
00:37:26,250 --> 00:37:21,040
church to meet someone I will we go to

791
00:37:28,110 --> 00:37:26,260
bars to meet someone I've always had an

792
00:37:33,210 --> 00:37:28,120
issue with someone saying I am attracted

793
00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:33,220
to that person for me that is not a good

794
00:37:40,620 --> 00:37:38,200
place to start because um it's almost as

795
00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:40,630
if we're already setting up the idea I

796
00:37:48,330 --> 00:37:43,630
need this person to fulfill some empty

797
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:48,340
part of myself versus finding someone

798
00:37:53,370 --> 00:37:50,320
meeting someone that you were just so

799
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:53,380
amazingly compatible with and then

800
00:38:00,420 --> 00:37:55,690
beginning a relationship from that

801
00:38:05,970 --> 00:38:00,430
particular place mm yes we have the same

802
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:05,980
views all right um basically when i'll

803
00:38:11,250 --> 00:38:09,010
give you a concrete example of this so

804
00:38:13,830 --> 00:38:11,260
when I met one of my current partners

805
00:38:17,490 --> 00:38:13,840
Robert and I discussed this in opening

806
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:17,500
love in detail he I wasn't attracted to

807
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:22,240
him um he he presented as just you know

808
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:26,290
this nice seeming man we you know got

809
00:38:32,190 --> 00:38:30,130
together we went to we had the same

810
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:32,200
friend group so we kept showing up the

811
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:33,760
same events and it was kind of funny and

812
00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:37,690
then what happened was is we just

813
00:38:43,770 --> 00:38:39,400
actually then started to get to know

814
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:43,780
each other and it is so it wasn't based

815
00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:46,930
on that initial like lust like oh it was

816
00:38:49,590 --> 00:38:49,360
a deeper connection that evolved and I

817
00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:49,600
say

818
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:53,830
that when you come together with someone

819
00:38:58,820 --> 00:38:55,690
not out of like you said not out of a

820
00:39:02,900 --> 00:38:58,830
lack and not looking to have that person

821
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:02,910
fulfill you because you are not worthy

822
00:39:09,060 --> 00:39:05,770
alone but you rather come together out

823
00:39:13,110 --> 00:39:09,070
of this sort of blissful recognition of

824
00:39:15,810 --> 00:39:13,120
oh if we get together our lives could be

825
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:15,820
this much more awesome yeah already

826
00:39:22,530 --> 00:39:18,160
awesome and like you said because you

827
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:22,540
are not attracted to this person there

828
00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:24,670
was nothing superficial in the way and

829
00:39:29,130 --> 00:39:27,100
you were able to well as time went by

830
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:29,140
and unfolded in the season in its season

831
00:39:35,070 --> 00:39:33,370
was able to experience the core of not

832
00:39:37,590 --> 00:39:35,080
only the person but the potential that

833
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:37,600
lies there lay there but between you and

834
00:39:43,530 --> 00:39:40,450
this person perfect example excuse me I

835
00:39:46,620 --> 00:39:43,540
had a dear friend of mine some years ago

836
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:46,630
is playing music in a loud smoky alcohol

837
00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:51,220
field rock bar which I love she was

838
00:39:57,570 --> 00:39:53,740
having some issues and the guy that she

839
00:39:59,070 --> 00:39:57,580
was up somewhat with their standing at

840
00:40:00,780 --> 00:39:59,080
the bar they weren't really dating they

841
00:40:02,490 --> 00:40:00,790
just kind of went there together with

842
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:02,500
the possible idea that something may

843
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:05,530
develop he was good-looking guy I mean

844
00:40:12,510 --> 00:40:08,170
he was built and he had had all this

845
00:40:15,390 --> 00:40:12,520
bling bling to him as a person as to why

846
00:40:17,340 --> 00:40:15,400
a young lady would be attracted to such

847
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:17,350
a guy if we following the old paradigm

848
00:40:25,170 --> 00:40:21,040
that being said he decided he was going

849
00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:25,180
to go to the restroom and as he did the

850
00:40:30,690 --> 00:40:27,790
guy next to her on her left tap some say

851
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:30,700
excuse me can I buy you a drink and keep

852
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:33,250
in mind I knew both guys on you both

853
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:36,370
gentlemen without judgment a new guy on

854
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:38,050
the right a new guy in the left and

855
00:40:43,290 --> 00:40:40,810
she's been complaining to me in times

856
00:40:45,330 --> 00:40:43,300
before that Keith I'm really looking for

857
00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:45,340
this type of guy who blah blah blah and

858
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:47,230
that's really what I want my life but

859
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:49,810
yet she's Saleh vaiting at John Doe on

860
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:52,690
the right and Jack though on the Left

861
00:40:57,420 --> 00:40:54,910
wasn't like that's the guy you want the

862
00:41:00,780 --> 00:40:57,430
guy on the left and but he was invisible

863
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:00,790
to her and I mean that knock he was

864
00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:03,280
truly invisible she could literally

865
00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:07,750
not see him there and so she was all she

866
00:41:11,730 --> 00:41:09,640
was interested in the in the glitz the

867
00:41:13,290 --> 00:41:11,740
glam the bling bling and all this the

868
00:41:15,330 --> 00:41:13,300
outsides I'm not saying the other guy

869
00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:15,340
didn't have heart and that he was not a

870
00:41:24,930 --> 00:41:18,900
solid individual but I know her and her

871
00:41:26,850 --> 00:41:24,940
being enamored and just one attracted to

872
00:41:28,650 --> 00:41:26,860
the gentleman when the guy truly on her

873
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:28,660
left was the one that she's been praying

874
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:33,730
for or at least his type right I think a

875
00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:35,440
lot of people are still stuck in that

876
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:38,440
shallow mindset of just looking at the

877
00:41:43,350 --> 00:41:40,720
physical appearance as if that is the

878
00:41:45,150 --> 00:41:43,360
main motivating factor of whether you're

879
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:45,160
getting in a relationship with someone

880
00:41:52,110 --> 00:41:50,560
and um I i I'm so out of that paradigm

881
00:41:54,090 --> 00:41:52,120
that I sometimes forget that that's

882
00:41:57,690 --> 00:41:54,100
still the paradigm most people are

883
00:41:59,970 --> 00:41:57,700
working so um and I actually was

884
00:42:01,650 --> 00:41:59,980
speaking with a friend the other day and

885
00:42:04,770 --> 00:42:01,660
I said do you think that you had the

886
00:42:06,570 --> 00:42:04,780
capability to love anyone and everyone

887
00:42:08,250 --> 00:42:06,580
because i myself have been thinking

888
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:08,260
about those i was you know just as like

889
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:11,110
a hypothetical experience imagining

890
00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:13,570
someone who by the normative standards

891
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:15,190
would not be attractive in any way in

892
00:42:19,890 --> 00:42:16,960
fact maybe most people would say they're

893
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:19,900
ugly or even like disgusting or

894
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:21,690
something like that i was thinkin o

895
00:42:25,950 --> 00:42:24,490
trying to you know picture different

896
00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:25,960
scenarios in my head and thinking could

897
00:42:29,490 --> 00:42:27,550
i fall in love with someone like that I

898
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:29,500
was thinking yeah I think I could and

899
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:31,030
then we're having this conversation and

900
00:42:35,460 --> 00:42:33,010
I asked the person and he said yeah I

901
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:35,470
definitely think I could and that's

902
00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:40,000
another aspect of the evolving

903
00:42:46,590 --> 00:42:42,660
consciousness in relationships you know

904
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:46,600
where we're getting to the root of the

905
00:42:51,270 --> 00:42:49,030
person that it really I mean it's sort

906
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:51,280
of a cliche of like you know it's not

907
00:42:54,420 --> 00:42:53,170
the cup what is it the it's not the

908
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:54,430
cover of the book that counts it's

909
00:42:59,130 --> 00:42:56,530
what's inside or whatever but I mean

910
00:43:02,310 --> 00:42:59,140
it's true that that is what matters and

911
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:02,320
you know when the initial spark dies

912
00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:04,960
away now in the polyamory movement by

913
00:43:09,570 --> 00:43:07,150
the way we have a term call NRI which is

914
00:43:11,580 --> 00:43:09,580
new relationship energy and it's the

915
00:43:13,620 --> 00:43:11,590
idea that in the beginning relationship

916
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:13,630
you're basically like insane because

917
00:43:16,980 --> 00:43:15,850
you're so in love and you have all these

918
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:16,990
sparks

919
00:43:21,810 --> 00:43:18,730
and everything is just new and exciting

920
00:43:24,030 --> 00:43:21,820
and shiny anyway when you know when the

921
00:43:26,670 --> 00:43:24,040
NRI dies off which it always does it

922
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:26,680
always does you settle over time into

923
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:30,570
more of a you know less intense

924
00:43:37,830 --> 00:43:34,090
situation well what about looks then

925
00:43:40,530 --> 00:43:37,840
does it really matter um I don't think

926
00:43:43,290 --> 00:43:40,540
it looks matter over time you basically

927
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:43,300
come to love the person for who they are

928
00:43:50,609 --> 00:43:46,930
inside and that's actually I get up that

929
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:50,619
changes the whole game yeah when you

930
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:52,510
love someone inside for who they are in

931
00:43:58,859 --> 00:43:55,570
fact the level of depth just goes to the

932
00:44:03,530 --> 00:43:58,869
infinite it really does it really

933
00:44:06,570 --> 00:44:03,540
there's been moments you know with with

934
00:44:08,310 --> 00:44:06,580
with different partners that I've had

935
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:08,320
that we've just you know been looking at

936
00:44:13,590 --> 00:44:10,570
each other's eyes and and I've actually

937
00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:13,600
passed out once from limb my partner and

938
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,730
i we were like looking at each other in

939
00:44:19,350 --> 00:44:17,680
the shower just looking at each other we

940
00:44:22,890 --> 00:44:19,360
weren't even really I don't touching

941
00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:22,900
each other even and I saw like looking

942
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:28,150
into his eyes I saw the beginning maybe

943
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:29,440
it's not the big thing but it was like

944
00:44:33,660 --> 00:44:31,570
sort of the moment of the universe where

945
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:33,670
everything started to expand outward and

946
00:44:41,250 --> 00:44:37,450
I saw how him and I fit into that and

947
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:41,260
then I felt everything else and just it

948
00:44:48,359 --> 00:44:43,330
was all kind of in this flash and I I

949
00:44:52,650 --> 00:44:48,369
literally like fell over um and that you

950
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:52,660
know that kind of connection I've even

951
00:44:56,910 --> 00:44:54,970
had that quite same experience with with

952
00:45:01,170 --> 00:44:56,920
other people but I've had that same sort

953
00:45:04,170 --> 00:45:01,180
of like cosmic feeling with so many

954
00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:04,180
different people and you know um an

955
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:09,310
aspect of why but people like to come to

956
00:45:14,580 --> 00:45:11,410
my workshops is because you know when

957
00:45:18,290 --> 00:45:14,590
I'm with people I really do my best to

958
00:45:24,090 --> 00:45:18,300
look almost through them and see them

959
00:45:27,870 --> 00:45:24,100
and it even look into someone's eyes if

960
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:27,880
you both lock it can get a little

961
00:45:30,750 --> 00:45:30,310
intimidating and you may do it for 15

962
00:45:34,620 --> 00:45:30,760
seconds

963
00:45:36,270 --> 00:45:34,630
thing you know you find yourself in a

964
00:45:38,190 --> 00:45:36,280
zone and all of a sudden something else

965
00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:38,200
begins to crop up and it's a it's a

966
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:41,470
beautiful mirror for one to be able to

967
00:45:45,810 --> 00:45:43,510
see themselves and where they have the

968
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:45,820
hang-ups and what is it that you are not

969
00:45:51,530 --> 00:45:47,890
exposing not exposing but what is it

970
00:45:56,610 --> 00:45:51,540
that you are afraid to let be revealed

971
00:45:58,110 --> 00:45:56,620
yes eyes on and it doesn't mean yet to

972
00:46:01,800 --> 00:45:58,120
share what the other person just your

973
00:46:03,870 --> 00:46:01,810
own acknowledgment of what we're trying

974
00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:03,880
to keep down what we keep trying to

975
00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:05,950
suppress and of course it's going to

976
00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:07,150
come up you're making yourself available

977
00:46:12,450 --> 00:46:09,670
by looking to the went the the the

978
00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:12,460
window of someone else's soul right and

979
00:46:17,370 --> 00:46:14,590
that reflection is automatically going

980
00:46:19,290 --> 00:46:17,380
to call cough up the dark yes let me ask

981
00:46:20,970 --> 00:46:19,300
you this on it out of my research that I

982
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:20,980
did to bring you into the show I never

983
00:46:26,130 --> 00:46:23,770
found out I'll never saw what is your

984
00:46:29,490 --> 00:46:26,140
doctor's degree in if I may ask sure

985
00:46:34,070 --> 00:46:29,500
it's a doctorate in English so not in

986
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:34,080
you know psychiatry or anything medical

987
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:37,450
yeah it's it's English the nickname came

988
00:46:44,180 --> 00:46:41,110
about because around the time I was

989
00:46:48,270 --> 00:46:44,190
getting my doctorate in the English um

990
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:48,280
my i do i work with healing with people

991
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:50,560
through reiki and so they were kind of

992
00:46:54,690 --> 00:46:52,510
joking with me that oh you're a doctor

993
00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:54,700
now but you're not like a real doctor

994
00:46:59,490 --> 00:46:57,250
not like an MD even though I was you

995
00:47:01,500 --> 00:46:59,500
know helping them with different

996
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:01,510
physical problems that they had and so

997
00:47:06,420 --> 00:47:04,450
they started calling me dr. Anya and it

998
00:47:08,810 --> 00:47:06,430
was sort of cute and like I don't know a

999
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:08,820
part of me thought at first that it was

1000
00:47:13,290 --> 00:47:12,010
too I don't know I guess there was

1001
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:13,300
apartment it didn't like the nickname

1002
00:47:17,250 --> 00:47:14,770
but then a part of me thought well

1003
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:17,260
that's kind of catchy so it's sort of

1004
00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:20,530
just stuck and yeah that's it was an

1005
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:23,260
English but um my dissertation that I

1006
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:26,770
had to complete for my degree I chose to

1007
00:47:30,810 --> 00:47:28,570
write about the polyamory movement and I

1008
00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:30,820
was the first person in my field to do

1009
00:47:36,180 --> 00:47:34,240
that or my sub field rather my subfield

1010
00:47:40,530 --> 00:47:36,190
within English was rhetoric and writing

1011
00:47:43,650 --> 00:47:40,540
so looking at how language has the

1012
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:43,660
potential to shape people's entire

1013
00:47:46,620 --> 00:47:44,530
worldview

1014
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:46,630
so people have sort of the negative

1015
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:48,730
connotation board rhetoric but the way

1016
00:47:53,250 --> 00:47:50,680
that I studied it was looking at how

1017
00:47:56,220 --> 00:47:53,260
words can empower people and how if we

1018
00:48:00,240 --> 00:47:56,230
like really dig down through cultural

1019
00:48:03,780 --> 00:48:00,250
conditioning we can use words to create

1020
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:03,790
positive change for people so i looked

1021
00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:05,110
at the polyamory movement and my

1022
00:48:13,230 --> 00:48:10,150
dissertation and i dug deeper and tried

1023
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:13,240
to show how the polyamory movement has a

1024
00:48:19,350 --> 00:48:15,210
lot with actually the gay and lesbian

1025
00:48:22,740 --> 00:48:19,360
social movement as well the LGBT you

1026
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:22,750
know queer movement how those things are

1027
00:48:30,930 --> 00:48:28,210
really related and how we can learn some

1028
00:48:33,390 --> 00:48:30,940
of the lessons that our friends in the

1029
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:33,400
gay and lesbian movement have learned in

1030
00:48:44,070 --> 00:48:35,170
the past 20 or 30 years and apply that

1031
00:48:47,820 --> 00:48:44,080
to the polyamory movement hmm so let me

1032
00:48:51,060 --> 00:48:47,830
ask you this when people are in

1033
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:51,070
relationship I think what often comes

1034
00:48:57,930 --> 00:48:54,210
into play is a lack of dialogue

1035
00:49:03,300 --> 00:48:57,940
surrounding the subject of sex because

1036
00:49:10,050 --> 00:49:03,310
both people have ideas of what it takes

1037
00:49:11,790 --> 00:49:10,060
to help them catapult into bliss they're

1038
00:49:14,310 --> 00:49:11,800
so scared to death to share that with

1039
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:14,320
their partner believing that it would

1040
00:49:21,330 --> 00:49:18,610
offend them make them nervous make them

1041
00:49:24,660 --> 00:49:21,340
leave the relationship but not only

1042
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:24,670
about sex but only but also about the

1043
00:49:30,830 --> 00:49:27,850
relationship it's itself and you know

1044
00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:30,840
sex is the I guess you would say the

1045
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:33,520
most involved expression of the

1046
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:35,200
relationship but I've always said that

1047
00:49:39,890 --> 00:49:37,930
if you can take the biggest piece of the

1048
00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:39,900
equation and make peace with that

1049
00:49:48,990 --> 00:49:43,990
everything falls suit underneath how do

1050
00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:49,000
we develop a dialogue with partners with

1051
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:52,750
taboo subjects we have to trust each

1052
00:49:57,590 --> 00:49:56,170
other first so if the people in the

1053
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:57,600
relationship

1054
00:50:01,730 --> 00:49:59,370
don't automatically trust each other

1055
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:01,740
first you need to start building that

1056
00:50:07,250 --> 00:50:03,930
trust first before you go into those

1057
00:50:10,220 --> 00:50:07,260
scary territories like sex so I would

1058
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:10,230
say they're just needs to start being

1059
00:50:15,950 --> 00:50:13,410
conversations about honesty itself how

1060
00:50:17,870 --> 00:50:15,960
can we be honest with each other how can

1061
00:50:20,540 --> 00:50:17,880
we not try to manipulate each other to

1062
00:50:22,940 --> 00:50:20,550
believe that we're someone that were not

1063
00:50:28,010 --> 00:50:22,950
so you know a lot of times in a marriage

1064
00:50:30,860 --> 00:50:28,020
people start just really subtly hiding

1065
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:30,870
things from their spouse that if they

1066
00:50:34,340 --> 00:50:32,370
think if their spots were to find out

1067
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:34,350
their spouse wouldn't think they were

1068
00:50:40,310 --> 00:50:36,690
such a great person anymore I mean so

1069
00:50:43,940 --> 00:50:40,320
for example you know like someone has an

1070
00:50:45,230 --> 00:50:43,950
issue with drinking and they went to the

1071
00:50:47,870 --> 00:50:45,240
bar and then they come home and their

1072
00:50:49,070 --> 00:50:47,880
you know their spouses you know where

1073
00:50:50,690 --> 00:50:49,080
you at the bar and they said yes and

1074
00:50:52,370 --> 00:50:50,700
then but then they lie they say I only

1075
00:50:54,530 --> 00:50:52,380
had two drinks but maybe they had ten

1076
00:50:57,530 --> 00:50:54,540
drinks you know so because they're

1077
00:51:01,010 --> 00:50:57,540
afraid of if they are honest that they

1078
00:51:02,750 --> 00:51:01,020
won't be seen as so awesome by the other

1079
00:51:04,250 --> 00:51:02,760
person so first starting with

1080
00:51:07,420 --> 00:51:04,260
conversations about how can we be more

1081
00:51:10,190 --> 00:51:07,430
honest every single day and that's tough

1082
00:51:16,310 --> 00:51:10,200
because our whole society is built

1083
00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:16,320
around dishonesty I mean we're told to

1084
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:22,680
wear a mask all the time so that's tough

1085
00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:26,090
so I think starting with the honesty

1086
00:51:31,460 --> 00:51:28,440
component of making that an intention

1087
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:31,470
for a relationship when you practice and

1088
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:33,210
experimented with that for a while then

1089
00:51:37,460 --> 00:51:35,010
you can go into the more scary subjects

1090
00:51:39,470 --> 00:51:37,470
I think that people what they're really

1091
00:51:43,870 --> 00:51:39,480
excited about when they reach out to me

1092
00:51:47,270 --> 00:51:43,880
and other teachers on these subjects is

1093
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:47,280
knowing that in the future what they can

1094
00:51:51,050 --> 00:51:49,110
reach for so if they're on a spiritual

1095
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:51,060
path you know what what is it what could

1096
00:51:57,170 --> 00:51:55,110
the future look like if we really use

1097
00:51:59,420 --> 00:51:57,180
our relationships in this very

1098
00:52:00,890 --> 00:51:59,430
intentional way in order to evolve our

1099
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:00,900
spiritual growth and they're not just

1100
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:04,290
relationships just to bring us pleasure

1101
00:52:10,579 --> 00:52:08,910
or you know getting away from loneliness

1102
00:52:13,249 --> 00:52:10,589
but we're really using them in

1103
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,259
for that spiritual purpose you people

1104
00:52:18,229 --> 00:52:15,200
learn about the concept of conversion

1105
00:52:20,359 --> 00:52:18,239
conversion is a term that was coined by

1106
00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:20,369
the poly movement and it means the

1107
00:52:28,190 --> 00:52:23,880
opposite of jealousy so compassion is

1108
00:52:33,259 --> 00:52:28,200
when you actually are happy for your

1109
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:33,269
partner no matter what yes yes so you

1110
00:52:38,269 --> 00:52:35,609
know when my partner for example

1111
00:52:39,769 --> 00:52:38,279
recently said I'm falling in love with

1112
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:39,779
this other person who I knew we were

1113
00:52:45,319 --> 00:52:43,650
friends you know my reaction instead of

1114
00:52:48,529 --> 00:52:45,329
automatically being jealousy was

1115
00:52:52,130 --> 00:52:48,539
actually oh you know like I got so

1116
00:52:53,959 --> 00:52:52,140
excited because I could see how what a

1117
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:53,969
great thing that was for both of those

1118
00:52:58,039 --> 00:52:56,729
people and then me too because now I get

1119
00:53:01,190 --> 00:52:58,049
to spend more time with this other cool

1120
00:53:03,370 --> 00:53:01,200
person and so it benefits everyone so

1121
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:03,380
thinking even if you are nowhere near

1122
00:53:08,420 --> 00:53:05,910
feeling like you can feel compassion if

1123
00:53:10,940 --> 00:53:08,430
your lover love someone else too and is

1124
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:10,950
honest about it too still to know that

1125
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:13,890
it's possible is really really freeing

1126
00:53:19,249 --> 00:53:17,249
yes it is because I I've been practicing

1127
00:53:21,859 --> 00:53:19,259
that for a very very long time I'm very

1128
00:53:23,390 --> 00:53:21,869
much aware that you know I have no

1129
00:53:25,759 --> 00:53:23,400
control that when you went to the

1130
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:25,769
supermarket yesterday that the guy or

1131
00:53:30,170 --> 00:53:27,930
the woman behind you was going to say

1132
00:53:32,029 --> 00:53:30,180
hello I we none of us had the idea that

1133
00:53:34,339 --> 00:53:32,039
the meeting was going to happen but it

1134
00:53:36,739 --> 00:53:34,349
did and the fact that it did things have

1135
00:53:38,569 --> 00:53:36,749
now changed in fact if that's where you

1136
00:53:42,859 --> 00:53:38,579
want to go and you're happy there here's

1137
00:53:46,130 --> 00:53:42,869
five dollars for gas right and it does

1138
00:53:49,609 --> 00:53:46,140
it doesn't mean that it won't move me

1139
00:53:52,249 --> 00:53:49,619
inside to tempt me to go into that place

1140
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:52,259
of jealousy because i have work to do we

1141
00:53:57,170 --> 00:53:54,839
have work to do what is the allowing and

1142
00:54:00,140 --> 00:53:57,180
the support and giving the blessings to

1143
00:54:01,969 --> 00:54:00,150
the other person to move forward and do

1144
00:54:05,690 --> 00:54:01,979
what you need to do to find your life

1145
00:54:08,809 --> 00:54:05,700
filled with bliss exactly and i think

1146
00:54:12,170 --> 00:54:08,819
it's important to you know also bring up

1147
00:54:17,870 --> 00:54:12,180
the fact that people like me we're not

1148
00:54:21,319 --> 00:54:17,880
trying to say that monogamy is bad or

1149
00:54:24,349 --> 00:54:21,329
that monogamy is a bad choice it's

1150
00:54:26,509 --> 00:54:24,359
definitely an option but what I'm trying

1151
00:54:28,009 --> 00:54:26,519
to do and other leaders in a poly

1152
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:28,019
movement are trying to do is bring

1153
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,849
awareness to the fact that it is an

1154
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:31,680
option though because people don't even

1155
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:34,890
see it as an option for relationships

1156
00:54:38,930 --> 00:54:36,569
it's just the way you do it there's no

1157
00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:38,940
question about it well no there's a lot

1158
00:54:43,609 --> 00:54:40,200
of people that are doing it differently

1159
00:54:45,019 --> 00:54:43,619
so just I have nothing against nyomi I

1160
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:45,029
mean I know well I have a lot of friends

1161
00:54:50,630 --> 00:54:46,559
were monogamous who are very proud of it

1162
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:50,640
and you know it's awesome like the idea

1163
00:54:58,130 --> 00:54:54,960
of just investing so intensely

1164
00:54:59,630 --> 00:54:58,140
especially that erotic energy over the

1165
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:59,640
course of a lifetime just between two

1166
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:01,200
people i mean there's things in monogamy

1167
00:55:06,499 --> 00:55:03,450
that you can't do if your poly it's just

1168
00:55:09,499 --> 00:55:06,509
true you can't so but yeah I don't want

1169
00:55:11,749 --> 00:55:09,509
to make a situation where monogamy is

1170
00:55:13,849 --> 00:55:11,759
the new bad thing or the thing we're

1171
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:13,859
fighting against I just I really have a

1172
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:16,079
passion for helping people you just

1173
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:17,609
passionate about your path and you know

1174
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:19,650
I understand that someone asked me Keith

1175
00:55:24,370 --> 00:55:21,089
do you have a formula for world peace

1176
00:55:28,430 --> 00:55:24,380
and of course keep those I said leave

1177
00:55:31,940 --> 00:55:28,440
everyone else alone just leave them

1178
00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:31,950
alone let people be people do without

1179
00:55:37,069 --> 00:55:34,640
judgment people will naturally

1180
00:55:38,660 --> 00:55:37,079
congregate in their own compartments and

1181
00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:38,670
move to that part of the city and

1182
00:55:43,339 --> 00:55:41,369
everybody lives blissfully lives in

1183
00:55:46,460 --> 00:55:43,349
light lives in joy lives in expansion

1184
00:55:48,650 --> 00:55:46,470
this has always been my dynamic um you

1185
00:55:50,410 --> 00:55:48,660
know we see people who would obviously

1186
00:55:54,289 --> 00:55:50,420
judge you in your work or people who

1187
00:55:58,220 --> 00:55:54,299
judge me in my work which is not so jeez

1188
00:56:00,319 --> 00:55:58,230
word um exaggerated or intense or and

1189
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,329
generate intense because of the idea and

1190
00:56:04,489 --> 00:56:02,400
how you and I had the dialogue on the

1191
00:56:06,410 --> 00:56:04,499
phone the other day we talked about this

1192
00:56:09,049 --> 00:56:06,420
is not without compassion for how other

1193
00:56:11,839 --> 00:56:09,059
people feel we don't want it we didn't I

1194
00:56:14,359 --> 00:56:11,849
didn't want to do the show imposing this

1195
00:56:16,759 --> 00:56:14,369
particular idea on people's tone walking

1196
00:56:19,249 --> 00:56:16,769
on their toes because it's done with the

1197
00:56:21,799 --> 00:56:19,259
idea of how people feel about such

1198
00:56:23,930 --> 00:56:21,809
concepts and I'm glad you came on to

1199
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:23,940
enlighten that not only listen audience

1200
00:56:28,910 --> 00:56:26,640
but me surrounding this particular

1201
00:56:31,460 --> 00:56:28,920
movement that you feel passionate is so

1202
00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:31,470
powerful in your life so thank you for

1203
00:56:34,910 --> 00:56:32,880
joining us we're we're coming to the top

1204
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:34,920
of the hour I appreciate you being here

1205
00:56:38,279 --> 00:56:37,200
in center of light radio would you leave

1206
00:56:44,069 --> 00:56:38,289
us with a

1207
00:56:46,890 --> 00:56:44,079
no thought oh absolutely if you feel

1208
00:56:51,299 --> 00:56:46,900
inspired by anything that I said I would

1209
00:56:53,309 --> 00:56:51,309
just urge you to make honesty a core

1210
00:56:55,409 --> 00:56:53,319
value in your life that you're really

1211
00:56:59,729 --> 00:56:55,419
striving towards daily and you talk to

1212
00:57:03,949 --> 00:56:59,739
your partner um family members friends

1213
00:57:07,319 --> 00:57:03,959
colleagues about how to bring honesty

1214
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:07,329
into relationships because without it I

1215
00:57:12,809 --> 00:57:10,650
I don't see that we can strive towards

1216
00:57:14,819 --> 00:57:12,819
evolving our consciousness so it's

1217
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:14,829
definitely crucial so please you know

1218
00:57:22,529 --> 00:57:18,400
talk about honesty on you what does God

1219
00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:22,539
to you if it can be described what is it

1220
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:28,809
to you myself and everyone very well

1221
00:57:31,709 --> 00:57:30,249
said thank you for joining me here in

1222
00:57:34,349 --> 00:57:31,719
center of light radio would you give out

1223
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:34,359
your contact information once again to

1224
00:57:38,039 --> 00:57:35,650
our listening audience for those who may

1225
00:57:40,890 --> 00:57:38,049
be interested even just to learn more

1226
00:57:42,689 --> 00:57:40,900
about the idea and also could possibly

1227
00:57:45,209 --> 00:57:42,699
put some fears that they may have to

1228
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:45,219
rest but also may help those who have

1229
00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:48,400
ideas or curiosities about it what is

1230
00:57:53,579 --> 00:57:51,369
your contact information yeah actually

1231
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:53,589
I'm looking to hear from just people

1232
00:57:57,749 --> 00:57:55,209
sharing their stories or asking me

1233
00:58:00,299 --> 00:57:57,759
questions so if you want to contact me

1234
00:58:06,409 --> 00:58:00,309
via email that would be awesome so Anya

1235
00:58:11,399 --> 00:58:06,419
trahan at gmail com so a nya tra haan @

1236
00:58:16,620 --> 00:58:11,409
gmail.com and then you can find me on my

1237
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:16,630
website dr. Anya dotnet dr a NY a dot n

1238
00:58:23,009 --> 00:58:20,529
ET i do relationship coaching session

1239
00:58:26,099 --> 00:58:23,019
spiritual guidance sessions with people

1240
00:58:27,509 --> 00:58:26,109
via skype or in person and I'm just I'm

1241
00:58:30,089 --> 00:58:27,519
really just looking to connect with

1242
00:58:34,169 --> 00:58:30,099
people and also um if you're interested

1243
00:58:35,849 --> 00:58:34,179
in learning about like networking if you

1244
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:35,859
think if you are poly and you're out

1245
00:58:41,219 --> 00:58:38,799
there and you want to like reach out i

1246
00:58:43,890 --> 00:58:41,229
can give you tips on different support

1247
00:58:46,859 --> 00:58:43,900
groups or there's so many different

1248
00:58:49,529 --> 00:58:46,869
online communities that i can point you

1249
00:58:52,180 --> 00:58:49,539
to for resources so please get in touch

1250
00:58:54,250 --> 00:58:52,190
with me and i will facilitate

1251
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:54,260
no whatever I can to help you out with

1252
00:58:59,079 --> 00:58:56,720
that on you thank you for joining me

1253
00:59:01,450 --> 00:58:59,089
today thanks keep everyone on your

1254
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:01,460
trahan center of light radio next week

1255
00:59:06,220 --> 00:59:03,650
on the show we're gonna have Susanna fur

1256
00:59:08,050 --> 00:59:06,230
and she is going to hit lighten you

1257
00:59:10,329 --> 00:59:08,060
she's going to expand you she's an

1258
00:59:13,089 --> 00:59:10,339
amazing guest full of knowledge wisdom

1259
00:59:16,059 --> 00:59:13,099
and power dear friend of mine I do

1260
00:59:19,329 --> 00:59:16,069
suggest um your presence here for that

1261
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:19,339
particular show what a very different

1262
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:20,810
subject for me i'm glad i had it i

1263
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:22,730
walked through the idea of my

1264
00:59:29,020 --> 00:59:26,210
uncomfortableness not for myself really

1265
00:59:30,849 --> 00:59:29,030
but how it would make people feel and i

1266
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:30,859
decided that's an illusion as well and

1267
00:59:33,970 --> 00:59:31,970
we're going to handle this with kid

1268
00:59:36,430 --> 00:59:33,980
gloves and give it the attention into

1269
00:59:38,650 --> 00:59:36,440
the respect that it truly deserves for

1270
00:59:40,750 --> 00:59:38,660
bringing joy to certain people's lives

1271
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:40,760
people live and lives by their own

1272
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:45,290
choices and we all have what we want for

1273
00:59:51,309 --> 00:59:47,569
ourselves in our scope and I I do

1274
00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:51,319
support you in moving further into that

1275
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:53,510
direction and you can do that shameless

1276
01:00:00,430 --> 00:59:56,650
plug by going do what you love a path to

1277
01:00:02,410 --> 01:00:00,440
passionate living you can do that by

1278
01:00:04,050 --> 01:00:02,420
going to do what you love the movie calm

1279
01:00:06,730 --> 01:00:04,060
and it will support you and all that you

1280
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:06,740
see as wanting to call to yourself to

1281
01:00:11,620 --> 01:00:09,650
bring infinite bliss into your lives

1282
01:00:14,370 --> 01:00:11,630
again Susanna firs going to be here next

1283
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:14,380
week I do appreciate your attendance and

1284
01:00:19,420 --> 01:00:16,970
one more announcement be in the very

1285
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:19,430
near future Swansea this way yogi is

1286
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:21,770
going to be here we're going to

1287
01:00:26,620 --> 01:00:24,710
hopefully do a live video broadcast with

1288
01:00:31,059 --> 01:00:26,630
this God realized man I've interviewed

1289
01:00:33,790 --> 01:00:31,069
him before Wow and hopefully we can get

1290
01:00:35,349 --> 01:00:33,800
my alien-human hybrid friend nucleus

1291
01:00:37,450 --> 01:00:35,359
eight here on the show in the very near

1292
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:37,460
future Keith Anthony Blanchett here

1293
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:40,250
remember when you lay down at night you

1294
01:00:44,500 --> 01:00:41,930
have nothing to do you might as well do

1295
01:00:46,630 --> 01:00:44,510
something in that nothing and as you

1296
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:46,640
breathe consciously God breathed life

1297
01:00:56,380 --> 01:00:54,940
and the energy begins to move that is

1298
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:56,390
your spirit that you're feeling when you

1299
01:01:01,059 --> 01:00:58,640
feel that buzz you're feeling your light

1300
01:01:04,660 --> 01:01:01,069
you're feeling your vibration and who

1301
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:04,670
you really are lies in that breath just

1302
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:08,410
behind that breath so move that way